The purpose of this page is for reference information. If you want current information, please join our Facebook Group and read our blog.In order to clean up this page, much in formation has been moved to the links page (click here or the tab above).
What is wrong with having a National ID Card?
I'll let Ron Paul answer that one (from 2010):
Pay attention at about 4 minutes in-
"It's always for good purposes. They're going to get rid of illegal immigration, they're going to find the criminals. But they're also going to monitor every single person, everything they do. It's sort of this idea, why not have cameras everyplace, on every street corner, because we'll catch the bad guys. Well why don't they have cameras in our house in case there's child beating or wife beating? One thing leads to another. You either believe in freedom or you don't."
Now onto someone that doesn't believe in freedom (despite what he campaigned upon)...
November 2011-
Despite the fact that House and Senate bills have been filed, one legislator is standing in the way. He's the Chairman of the House Transportation and Highway Safety subcommittee, Brad Drake, of House District 5 in the Florida Panhandle. He thinks the bill is a waste of time and will not allow it to be heard. Rep. Drake ran on a smaller government platform of less government intrusion and more personal freedom, so now is his chance to show us that his actions match his campaign statements.
Rep. Drake's lack of a response to us since the end of October is why this is being published. In 2011, that is an unreasonable delay. Coupled with other info, he is burying the bill and this information needs to get out to those affected. If he will stand by the principles he ran on to get into office, we'll work full-time to support him. If he fails to do so on a critical issue, we'll work full-time against him. The choice is his.
Great news- HB 109 and S 220 filed in the Florida Legislature- the REAL ID response!!!
Rep. Larry Ahern, District 51
After a considerable effort, the Florida Driver’s License Citizen
Protection Act has been filed in the Florida House by Rep. Larry Ahern
of District 51 (the Pinellas County area). This bill seeks to reverse
the unconstitutional provisions of the federal REAL ID Act as it
pertains to state driver’s licenses, such as document scanning and
storage while maintaining security for non-citizen applicants.
First off, a huge thank you to Rep. Ahern for filing this bill.
Likewise to those that have carried this battle against REAL ID forward
and now placed it in a position to where relief for Florida’s citizens
is at hand. Please spread the word on this vital legislation. UPDATE: There is now a Senate companion, S200, filed by Sen. Greg Evers.
Want to help? Please click here for info on how to do so and then make an appointment with your state representatives and senators.
A "Myths" tab has been added here.
Click on it to see some of the common myths about REAL ID that are
circulating, and some factual responses.
Our group is available to give a 30 minute
educational presentation about REAL ID and our driver license laws here
in Florida. Currently, this is restricted to the North Florida area due
to a lack of funds. If your group would like the presentation, please
use the contact page to send us an email. The presentation is done at no
cost, but donations to offset expenses are appreciated.
Floridians Against REAL ID was formed to educate the citizens of Florida about the REAL
ID law and to act as an advocate to repeal the law in our legislature.
Donations are not tax-deductible.
We now have a PayPal donate button on the upper right of the screen. We need money to distribute educational materials, and to travel for presentations. We're not asking for a lot from a few, just a little from many. There are over 12 million drivers in Florida. If you're one of them and are concerned about your privacy as well as your rights, please donate to our cause. We finished 2010 about $1,000 in the hole (due to fuel costs), so your donations are needed to help us with this effort.
Welcome to our website
What is the REAL ID Act?
The REAL ID Act is a law passed by Congress in 2005. It makes the States change the way they issue ID cards and driver licenses. It imposes numerous requirements on the States, and more importantly the citizens of those states. Here in Florida, what this means is when you go to renew your driver license or change your name (such as due to divorce, marriage, etc.) you have to provide a laundry list of documents. These include but are not limited to certified copies of your birth certificate or passport, your Social Security card, proof of address such as your power/utility bill, your mortgage coupon book, etc. All of the details have been laid out by the State of Florida on a website called Gather Go Get. Once you have provided this information, it is then scanned into a database and retained by the state. By Federal law (the REAL ID Act), this information is to be shared with other states.
A history of the REAL ID Act (information courtesy of GovTrack)
The REAL ID Act started life in 2005 as H.R. 418, a bill in Congress. It was introduced in January 2005 by Rep.
James Sensenbrenner (R-WI5). Even though it had 140 co-sponsors, it was never enacted.
On February 10, 2005, this bill passed in the House of Representatives by
roll call vote.
The totals were 261 Ayes, 161 Nays, 11 Present/Not Voting. Click here of vote
Details. The vote was not really on partisan lines, with 219 Republicans and 42 Democrats voting for it and 152 Democrats, 8 Republicans, and 1 Independent voting against it.
This bill never became law.
This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress.
Sessions
of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all
proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared
from the books.
Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate
under a new number in the next session.
The Republican leadership did not give up the idea. It re-emerged hidden within the "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on
Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005", H.R. 1268. This bill was sponsored by Rep.
Jerry Lewis (R-CA41). Even though it had no co-sponsors, it passed the House on March 16, 2005 by a vote of 388-43 with 3 not present or not voting. Of the nay votes, 39 were Democrats, 3 Republicans, and 1 Independent. It passed the Senate on April 11, 2005 with a vote of 99-0 with one not present or not voting. It was signed into law by former President George W. Bush on May 11, 2005.
Adoption in Florida
The Florida Legislature addressed the REAL ID Act in 2008. Senate Bill 1992, introduced by Republican Senator Carey Baker on February 14, 2008, made changes to much of the existing driver license law. The bill passed the Senate for the first time on April 23, 2008 with a vote of 37 yeas, 2 nays, and 1 not voting. The bill passed the House on April 30, 2008 with a vote of 112 yeas, 2 nays, and 6 not voting. The amended bill passed the Senate for the second time on May 1, 2008 38-0 with two not voting. The bill was approved by Governor Charlie Crist
on June 17, 2008.
In the "Bill analysis and fiscal impact statement" produced by the professional staff of the Criminal Justice Committee, the basis for the changes to the driver license sections of the law is shown to be the Federal REAL ID Act.
The DMV and your personal ID information
The weakest link in any computer system is the human element. The Florida DMV does not have a good history with security of your personal ID information. As recently as 2009, a ring was arrested in South Florida that included seven (7) corrupt DMV employees that were selling fake driver licenses.
The State of Florida was sued, again in 2009, for improperly selling personal ID information in violation of Federal law (the driver privacy act). The state wrongly disclosed some 30 million records for a fee between
May 2003 and October 2004, according to the U.S. Justice Department. The State admitted it had broken this law, but once this information is released, you cannot get it back.
Legislative solution
Our initial aim was to file suit and overturn the law, but we could not raise enough money to do so. Many of us have seen this law for what it is: Unconstitutional, and an invasion of our privacy. We have asked our legislators to help us with repealing the law, but our requests have fallen on deaf ears. After the 2010 election, this appears to be changing. We've prepared proposed legislation to repeal REAL ID in Florida and will be meeting with our legislators to get it filed.
Our legislators refused to do anything about this in the 2011 session. We now have bills filed in the 2012 session, HB 109 and S220, and are still open to filing suit, as this would be the most direct method to overturn the law.
What you can do
See above for how to help. We need as many Floridians as possible to call upon their elected state officials to support our bills. Also consider joining our Facebook group, which is linked on the right side of this page. As with any other issue, if enough of us care to get involved, we can make something happen regardless of who is in elected office.
The REAL ID Act's effect in Florida
Expense: Bang for the Buck
According to the Florida DMV, as of 2010, over $10 million in tax dollars have been spent on REAL ID in Florida, and not one illegal alien or terrorist has been identified due solely to REAL ID.
Loss of Privacy
Our U.S. Constitution is supposed to protect us (and our houses, papers, and effects) from unreasonable searches and seizures. By the State seizing numerous personal identification documents in order to issue an ID card or driver license, this places citizens at risk
Making Lawbreakers out of Regular People
Some of our citizens cannot comply with this law due to no fault of their own. Consider the woman from Tallahassee who got divorced out of state over 30 years ago and now can't get a required form to show her name legally changed. How about the senior citizen that can no longer get a birth certificate since the records were destroyed? Even though they have no intent to break the law, these citizens now have to drive on an expired driver license.
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Floridians Against REAL ID radio interview- The Jim Guest Radio Show on June 13, 2010: